Listen now (54 mins) | Watch it here; https://www.patreon.com/posts/larb-live-with-24176541 Every Friday I take The Larb Podcast Live on Patreon with a guest to discuss creativity and work. Friday 25th Jan, my friend, singer-songwriter Ray Heffernan joined me to discuss the idea that to be truly happy and fulfilled in our work, we must change our transactional relationship with it, develop our creative skills and form true meaning from our work rather than treat it simply as a means to an end. We discuss the pursuit of success, trying to find yourself in the applause of others, and how it ultimately destroys the creative spirit.